Love using this belt for everything, thread it through belt loops on jeans or just wear it under a pair of basketball shorts. So much more comfortable than a traditional gun belt. I have several of these belts. The little stiffener has a tendency to start to break down after months of use, but it's still functional & I think that's still an ok compromise vs a traditional belt. Maybe include an extra one when you buy the belt instead of making it an extra purchase down the road. Wish they offered this belt in OD green!